Sunday, March 27, 2011

Where Is Heaven?

It has been 14 long months since I have posted here. Honestly, I don't know where the time goes. Not much has changed ... still rooted in Deism, following other's postings who share similar (and opposing) beliefs, and just living. But now and then I am compelled to write.

I have written before on basic facts about our Universe ... at least what is known at this time about it. I am utterly fascinated by the science and the sheer vastness. So, let me ask, "Where is heaven?" Such a childish question. So elementary, right? But this is not a rhetorical question; I want to know.

Generally, when heaven is spoken of, we merely need to lift our eyes "up" to know where heaven is. But is this "up" from the perspective of the northern or southern hemisphere? Or maybe it's a perpendicular delineation. Hard to believe that half of our globe is getting it wrong. They should be looking downward, through the Earth, in an effort to express their desire for direction toward heaven. But wait, no, that would show a yearning for hell, wouldn't it? It's certainly not difficult to imagine where the writers of these holy texts came up with the notion of hell, so we'll just let that go for now.

Is heaven in our solar system? Is it in our Milky Way galaxy? Is heaven at least in our own Universe? At any rate, hidden from the multitude of sensors and optics of scientists. How long will it take to get there? Hours? Maybe hundreds, or thousands of years? In the case of the outer reaches of the known Universe, billions of years? Or, as in select texts, in the blink of an eye? This one, in particular, presents a tiny little problem. Can our souls (or risen bodies) travel faster then the speed of light?

What do you mean our journey to heaven doesn't have a speed limit? Hold on. We agree that God created the Universe, right? In His infinite wisdom He created our Universe with space and time. It takes time to go through the space ... and it goes against these laws of Nature, which we agree God created for us, to go anywhere of note in the blink of an eye. In case you don't know, it takes over eight minutes for the light of the Sun just to reach Earth. So, we know empirically heaven is not around Earth, and certainly heaven is not within our solar system, and too, we might all agree heaven is not contained in our galaxy. I would venture that no believers would think heaven is contained at all, even within our Universe. Most would probably allude that heaven is outside of this physical world - outside of this Universe. Wow, well God certainly has presented us a huge paradox. He has created for us a Universe with almost incomprehensible distances, complete with natural laws that limit how fast we might travel the space within it.

Just to recap; the known observable Universe is about 540,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 miles across. That's more than 540 sextillion miles, or about 45 billion light years out from Earth in opposing directions - 90 billion light years across in total. And scientists believe it goes much further ... that's just what we can see!

So, tell me again, "Where is heaven?"

One Deist Φ


Arcos Plage said...

The first question Pamdeism (which has no use for a "heaven") poses is:

Is the Creator in which you believe powerful enough to set forth the Universe as we experience it -- in every particular -- while needing do nothing more than set forth the energy of this Universe and the governing dynamics which control the behavior of that energy?

If yes, then the answer confesses that all scripture, revelation, prophecy, and such, is accountable with a theological model which requires no assumptions about the interference of the Creator beyond the moment of Creation, the "Big Bang" as it were....

But if no, then the answer confesses a Creator inferior in power to the Creator set forth by Pandeism, and renders Pandeism the superior explanatory model after all.

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Anonymous said...

Hey OneDeist...
Really long time no hear. Wanted to touch base and see what you've been up to.

Are you involved at all in any of the Deist communities on the web? I haven't really gotten involved myself but have been curious.

Hope all is well.

One Deist Φ said...

Hi Julian,
It has indeed been a long time. And I hope all is well for you and yours.

I am (or was) signed up for several other Deism sites, but have not participated in quite some time. I found that I became less involved on the web and much more involved in real life. I have no problem initiating it, and have had several "conversations" or "discussions" about Deism with real people, face to face. Yes, it normally involves some form of debate, but I strive to keep it civilized, and encourage the other participant to start and stop whenever they are comfortable. A couple of these "talks" have stretched out for months. The goal is never to win ... but always to make them THINK. I have found it extremely challenging and rewarding.

Other then that, just living life to the fullest I can with those I love. And Life is good.

One Deist Φ

zodiac said...

when I was a muslim, I tried my best to reconcile religion with science. I used to argue that heaven and hell were perhaps parallel universes, or another planets trillions of light years
away. The way to get to it is through the extra dimensions provided by String theory. Maybe someday science will be able to skip the dying part and go directly to heaven with spacecrafts designed to travel through the extra dimensions.
And then i would joke around... oh wait, what if the americans find oil in heaven???